A bit of help with MG3 Hex VST in Studio One (Win 10)

Hello.

I finally got the HEX version and I have a question regarding how to set it up in Studio One. This is for a GK3 pickup with a breakout box directly to my Presonus 1824c interface (song setup inputs 3-8).

I have everything working just fine with the MG3 stand alone in HEX mode and I can transmit MIDI via LoopMIDI to Studio One and play my VST instruments there. All with that single interface.

But for some reason, if I try to use MG3 HEX VST in Studio One, I can’t get it to work. Single input base MG3 works though.

I see that the input module shows “No HEX Input” and if I click on it, I don’t see all the parameters I saw previously in the stand alone app. I only see “Ask Daw to give it 8 input channels”. I tried that and restarted the DAW and got nothing.

I surely miss something.

Any thoughts ?

Thanks !!

Claude

studio one is likely providing mg3hex with a stereo feed, which is why mg3 is reporting ‘no hex input’.

in ableton you have to use three tracks and forward the six combined signals to the track containing mg3hex.

i doubt that trick would work in studio one, but who knows.

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The forthcoming plugin version release of MG3 Hex for macOS has access to multiple audio inputs independent of the DAW/host’s audio I/O. It’s a big deal for hex users. But I can’t say for sure that this will be possible on Windows as I don’t know the ins and outs of audio on that OS so well.

It means MG3 Hex should work in all DAWs, even ones that don’t support multi-channel audio inputs for plugins — on macOS.

For now sticking to MG3 Hex standalone is your best bet but hopefully the new version will be able to do this in Windows also.

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It isn’t working as you assumed. The problem in Studio One seems to be that the routing options are very limited. The best results I achieved setting up a 5.1 input bus with the six single inputs from a GP-10. It is possible to insert MG3Hex on a track with a 5.1 input configuration and the 5.1 bus as input. MG3Hex accepts the input and it can be configured, but due to unknown reasons the D string (input on the “C” / center position) of the 5.1 input is passing the dry guitar signal in addition to any VST sound used. Further you can not pan all strings to the center position.

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This rings a bell for me. You might want to test all the string inputs individually, because I seem to remember having a problem where they were not all in the expected channel order, but they were all there.

Thanks for all the tips and help.

Unfortunately, after a few more trials suggested by you guys, I still can’t get any connection from my interface to the MG3 HEX VST. I’ve tried a lot of things. I can get a signal—like with the 5.0/5.1 tip—but I haven’t had any success passing it through MG3. I hope I’m not missing something critical.

Hopefully, a future update, like the one Vaultnaemsae described, could make it a lot easier.

So, I’ll keep using the standalone version for now. Seems like it’s my only reasonable option.

Thanks for helping—really appreciate it.

@cldmrqs , perhaps it is worth discussing the problem in the forum studiooneforum.com .
It’s a manufacturer-independent forum, but there are also some well-known presonus people in the forum who are sure to pass it on if there’s a problem with studio one.

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@anjo. Thanks. It is a good suggestion. :+1:

In fact, you just need to declare a 7.1 audio input and MG3Hex works correctly in StudioOne7. In my case, I use the VG-800 as an audio input. This is the same scenario as with GigPerformer. The channels of the six strings of the VG800 are from channel 3 to 8.

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It doesn’t work for me with the GP-10 connected. It is the same as if I set up a 5.1 input bus. One string is always sending the dry raw signal in addition to the VST sound.
But I don’t need Studio One since it works perfectly in Cubase. I was just trying to help @cldmrqs.

The next version of MG3Hex, 3.0.63, will introduce a new feature that will simply resolve the issues with defining dedicated audio inputs for MG3Hex, regardless of the DAW used and the selected audio interface:
“The MG HEX module will open any GP/GM/SY automatically, if such a thing is connected.
You should see the “configure” button instead say “GM-800”, “SY-1000”, or “GP-10”, if there is a connection.
That means you should not set the GP/GM/SY as input in audio devices, and not set 8 channel input.
Instead, use another audio interface, maybe?
Should also open a GP/GM/SY when running as a VST/AU, simplifying DAW routing.”
However, I don’t know when JamO will release this version, so let’s wait for this great new feature…

@xtian82 The 7.1 configuration seems to work. I haven’t tested it fully yet, but I’m getting some results. I did notice some dry signal coming from the strings, similar to what @Dutti67 experienced, but I think there might be a fix. Honestly, I’m not entirely sure what I’m doing, but it seems to work. I went into the surround pan control, hard-panned everything, and the dry signal disappeared. I’ll keep testing tomorrow and report back.

Really appreciate all the help from you guys—this is great!

UPDATE : I haven’t found anything to complain about, apart from my computer might be a bit too slow, cause I get some crackling sounds at buffer size 64. Or maybe I will sort it out.

7.1