Fake! MiGiC Poly cannot detect individual strings on a standard guitar without a HEX pickup. Will MG3 Standard make this game-changer in the future?

MiGiC has recently started offering single-string detection for standard magnetic guitar pickups without HEX hardware. Has anyone tested this thoroughly yet?

This has been my suggestion for a long time, but the community has only responded with astonishment, head-shaking, or even outright rejection.

Only @JamO thought the idea was good.

Should this feature be coming to MG3 Standard now,
first for MIDI control and later for audio manipulation per string?

I would be very happy about that :slightly_smiling_face: (because the HEX hardware is a major hurdle for me)

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Interesting! I just downloaded the Demo version and did a short test of the poly tracker on my laptop. In my case it lacks detection of notes at all, not just from which string they are coming. There is not much that can be adjusted in order to raise the gain (or I haven’t found it yet), my little iRig interface is maxed out. I have an input signal level of approximately 60% (UI: “In Level”) but it’s only picking up roughly 30% of the notes I play. Need to check it on my studio computer.

This is super interesting. As someone who’s been on the fence with HEX due to the high hardware cost, this could perhaps be the silver bullet! Will definitely check this out.

Sorry, this software has nothing to do with single string detection, just polyphonic mode. It offers nothing what MG3 couldn’t do, and MG3 does it better and has much more features.

Let’s not inflate the field of MIDI Guitars with sensational and untrue claims: There are more than enough hurdles already (latency, lack of sensitivity, accuracy and feeling of disconnect) for a new guitarist to pick up any kind of MIDI system. Claims like these can make a bad first impression and hurt all of us.

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why wouldn’t you try it yourself before sharing? then there would be no need for the click-baity ‘fake or not’.

as a courtesy to the others here, ten minutes of your time would have allowed you to say ‘FAKE!’

lastly, exactly where does migic say they offer ‘single string detection’? and does that mean what you want it to mean?

you’d make a stronger case for your obsession if you would provide specific code to support your claim that this type of note detection is feasible with acceptable latency and accuracy.

No need to go in full on attack mode @kimyo.

If YOU also cared to do some research before posting, you would see on the page that it actually does state “per-string detection”.

I’ll be testing this tonight, and report back.

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Please check it out and you will see that it’s not true what they state. They also talk about “no MIDI pickups required” and such things does not exist.
No matter what string you play first, the first of the six indicators will show the note (if it is detected at all). Second note will be the second indicator, and so on…..
This is in best case polyphonic detection. Try pitch bend with a VST. I couldn’t manage to bend smoothly, it’s taking seminote jumps. Try a polyphonic bend → everything “jumps”….

Got it - for my use case, just getting 100% tracking of complex harmonies would suffice (i.e. I don’t need pitch bend etc). But I’ll test and report my findings :blush:

Managed to sneak in some “me time”. Unfortunately the MiGiC software fares no better than the vanilla MIDI Guitar 3 when it comes to tracking of complex chords. Once I introduce minor seconds, chords with repeated notes (one played on fifth string, followed by an open string), and generally hexad chords (i.e. chords played on all strings), things go awry. Thus, I’m still waiting for someone to offer up a convenient HEX pickup with direct USB-C interface to the computer.

The dev was kind enough to allow me a license for MiGiC NX (mono version) to test it out thoroughly.

Once I figured it out, I can say that it does vanilla monophonic pitch-to-MIDI just fine, you might even say well…but, only monophonic.

I installed the Poly version yesterday. Nice GUI and I like the effects and amp profiles, But, the evaluation time interruption is too short for me not to want to rip my hair out.

Once you eventually figure it out, it will track. But I think that calling it “Poly” is a bit misleading at this stage. And keep in mind that it will only work on a +/-2 semitone range for pitchbend, at least for VSTs/external synths.

I’ll report more on this later.

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@JamO, well, I totally understand what you’re saying.

In response to my email inquiry, the MiGiC developer personally confirmed that it doesn’t currently support single-string detection, but plans to in the future.

In this regard, their websites are misleading and just marketing hype.

But regardless of that:
@JamO: It’s your great mission „No need for inconvenient special pickups and no physical mods“ to free guitarists from all this HEX hardware.

A huge step in that direction has undoubtedly already been very successfully achieved with the MG3 Standard.

And single-string detection for the MG3 Standard would mean complete freedom from any HEX hardware. :flexed_biceps: