Tried MG3 plugin in Windows 11 on Bitwig 4.3. UI does not display properly and is unusable in both VST2 and 3 forms. Couldn’t get far enough to test the audio routing capabilities of Bitwig and MG3 Hex.
No I do not work for JamO.
I am not selling the software on, just trying this out for my own purposes.
JamO implied that midi channel per string is a “simple fix” just after my post so it looks like all will be good.
I simply was experimenting to see what was possible for my purposes — it was a revelation now it’s working.
Hoping JamO can come out with some updates soon – appreciate how hard they must already be working.
Thinking beyond, I think the ability to modulate each string with the new MG3 modulations, tuning and control mapping functions opens up a whole new dimension.
This is game changing technology for me.
I couldn’t find a way to route multi-channel audio to MG3 Hex in Bitwig 5.2.4 or Logic Pro 11.0.1 (macOS). I suspect you may be able to do something with the surround sound abilities of Logic but it’s beyond me.
Coming from a TriplePlay setup, the ability to retune any of the strings and to mute open strings was the most used feature, it’s like the 101 of midi guitar playing.
Examples:
If I play piano or any other keyboard down tunning the low E and A string by an octave is a must to emulate the spread between the left and right hand of a piano player.
If I play saxophone muting open strings is a big help to not trigger false notes while you do those fast monophonic runs.
What if the string selector would have a tune up and tune down arrow for each string and instead of enable/disable only add a third option of mute open string this way you can use all of these options in a single chain.
MG try to be a more general, modular approach. Tuning and separating strings are not necessarily related. There are modules for everything and all modules can be combined freely.
You can use a string filter to separate strings and a transposer or a returner to tune them. You can even mute or modulate the tuning of individual notes the using returner module and cabling it from the modulators module. Or maybe add a sustainer module to sustain bass notes. Things like that.
How would I mute 6 open strings?
I would need 6 chains.
Yes I havent heard this idea before, so i was just thinking about it. It’s trivial to add a midi machine to mute open strings or a given set of notes, just like the scale filter mutes all notes not in a chosen scale. But isn’t some sort of hack just to avoid tracking issues with the ftp?
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It’s just something I like to use to avoid triggering open strings by accident. No biggie if we can keep each string on it’s own dedicated midi channel then I can filter the open string with a third party app like MidiLab.
Ok it’s an interesting idea. I’ll will just add it as a separate module and we can try it out.
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Cool!
I should have a hex setup by next week…. I might have more ideas after that.
Thank you for everything you are doing.
If you can run two instances (see my hack above) of MG3 HEX then all this can be achieved with string filter and pitch filter. I have started doing this and more (modulation, string transposing).
Ideally 6 chains in one MG3 would work much more seamlessly and will come on stream sometime.
But it can be done now with a tiny bit of effort — it’s well worth to, works great and has amazing potential!
We are Beta testers, we have the chance to influence the final development of the software.
I know I can run two or more instances to achieve all kind of stuff but if I can avoid all that by hopefully improving the beta version that would be even better.
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Agree 100%.
But until this happens, we can still achieve what we want and experiment away. Also by highlighting the potential I hope this gives JamO further encouragement to develop such exciting features further.
I can now play my Ample plugins and, articulations aside (key switching is not so flexible), they now play just like a normal guitar! … and lots more of course.
have you tried any of the ample guitars in baritone tuning?
I don’t think that this is possible. I can not manage to get lower than E2 with the Ample guitars, there are probably no samples in the library.
Ample Guitars allow only tuning down 2 steps, so down to D only on bottom E string. I am not aware of a specific Ample Baritone Guitar.
Currently, MG3 only detects down to E2 but you could transpose the MIDI E string.
The two steps down are only working as pitch bend. Transposing the E string down will not create any sound below E2.
Within Ample, I modify the Tuning Peg(s) to change the tuning of the guitar, then Ample responds and plays a midi D2 or D#2 just fine?
thanks for the info, guys.
a meaty and succulent baritone acoustic is my holy grail.
i have a hardware solution but it requires a baritone electric to feed it. i’d much rather use my regular guitar.