In the last week I was thinking within myself… now that NAM A2 is here… will MG3 pick it up in the future ?
Knowing that MG3 still needs to be finished and productized out of Beta I see it as a nice to have (one can always use gateway plugin to use A2 profiles) but I am interested in how that will impact MG3 Development.
Yes, let’s try to add NAM A2 too. I didn’t look at it yet, but if it has a permissive license and the code is anything like the old NAM, it should be easy to add.
Thanks @JamO it’s not priority because finishing MG3 core is. However all the internet exploded in several copycats also in the hardware world. So having it in the pipeline counts. The Tone3000 user based capture is immense and it will take some time to be converted but if you provide NAM native in MG3 better be A2 that reads old and new formats and it’s nicer on the CPU load so we can use more CPU cycles for MG3 MIDI stuff
@pasha, you have a lot more experience with NAM than me. Do you know of any really beautiful clean profiles? I’m yet to find one that I bond with. Overdrive, on the otherhand; there are many great dirty amp profiles to be explored.
It would be very cool to see NAM A2 in MG3 in the future. Imagine the shared user presets that will follow on from that…
FTR, I’m definitely interested in this too! I’ve been pretty blown away thus far by several of the profiles I’ve found with just a small bit of exploration at Tone3000, but I would love to hear what really inspires others, especially on the clean side. (I know a sound I like when I hear it, but still consider myself a relative n00b at guitar tone.)
And in re NAM specifically, I’m still “in the middle” of an exploration of a few “acoustic simulator” profiles that have yielded surprising results with the quirky-personality pickup of my old travel guitar, one of the first-edition steel-string SoloEttes. My [Mexican Fat] Strat thus far has been less inspiring, but still better than I’d have expected*; at any rate, I’d also love to hear if anyone else has been going down this path–especially with A2 on the horizon.
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* I’ve gotten sidetracked this summer, for a host of reasons, but still intend to honor a request someone here made for some sound samples from the Strat. (In my initial enthusiasm with the SoloEtte, I think I mis-remembered how well the same idea translated to the Strat, and when I went to do the sound samples originally I found I wanted to make them better first. Anyway, that’s still on the R&D burner…)
Profiling means YMMV because it depends on the guitar pickups a lot. I have three strats and they sound different. It’s a snapshot , miles away from modeling. You can touch the tonestack but the results are different from modeling (SY1000, GP10, VG99 and more). In the paid capture they suggest using humbucker or single coils depending on the capture used. If you like the capture it’s heaven if not you have to change capture not fiddling too much with tone stack , which you can use up to a point. EQ post or Pre might help but that’s profiling.
For overdriven or multi stage gain I use this good capture of a BD Waza (more than 100 captures! at various settings) for free (A2) :
I use it before the Clean Deluxe or slightly overdriven.
Thanks, @Pasha. I’ll test out your recommendations. NAM’s a rabbit hole I’m a bit nervous to go down since I already have sounds I like, but who can resist all those amps indefinitely?!?
I think it might help to take two steps away and change perspective. Kemper opened the door to profiling then many others came, as well as Neural DSP. Quad Cortex / Nano Cortex each one with their limitations and great features opened another door. Then NAM. As the author said: My goal with NAM is to democratize state-of-the-art guitar amp modeling and make profiling technology accessible to everyone. It’s still an Amp profile capture and player. Just as Nano & Quad Cortex / Kemper and others. Tone3000 it’s a huge repository but how many have good equipment do to the captures? A profiler is as good as the profiles it plays. That’s why Tone3000 it’s the exposition. The paid IRs and Full Rigs/Amp captures are the real thing which despite the whole music world being so excited comes with its limitation. Rotating the knobs on a modeling device will produce sounds that you can refine or reject. Knobs on NAM help but their scope it’s different. I have learned that a high gain profile cannot be cleaned. A dark or warm profile cannot be pushed on treble. I agree with the Author : NAM is free is for every one and Tone3000 is the place to go and proceed by trial and error. I still have problems with profiling, coming from years of Modeling. Lately VG99 and GP10 sound ‘old’ especially on break up/Crunchy/ Gain sounds so I turned to NAM to explore the profiling technology and it was good. However I immediately discovered that when a profile doesn’t sound right you better change profile than playing with the tone stack. With this in mind I wish you a successful exploration and fun. Find your way. NAM is a profiling tool. The CPU power in 2026 makes you laugh. My 2020 Mac Mini with 8GB RAM can run Ableton Live with 3 NAM A2 (Gateway) instances and CPU still has a lot more to scale. Going all digital it’s a bold temptation. Advantages are many. Changing the sound completely after a take w/o running through re-amping it’s good but sometimes I miss the ‘old’ way with GP10 and VG99 plugged into Audio Card. the Cortex family and kemper said leave your Tube Amp at home cozy and clean. Capture it and bring it with you instead in your profiler. NAM is telling you bring your Laptop with you… and an Audio Card.