Pitch Bend Mapping To Non Pitch Bend CC + Volume Envelope mapping to midi CC

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Hello,

  1. I want to map pitch bend/relative pitch bend range (whether set to 2 or more etc…) to another parameter. For example, say I bent a note up .25 semitone, it would be cool to be able to map that .25 divided by 2 range = .125 of the full 127 CC range (15.875) etc… (and all the points in between as I bend…) to be able to trigger something via midi cc like a distortion gain knob or reverb send with bending strings. Within the midi guitar 3 framework, is this possible? I tried some things but couldn’t figure it out.
  2. Is it possible to map the volume envelope to CC to control effect parameters as well? Would you use “strike” for that? Would be cool to use an instance of midi guitar on vocals (solely for getting expression CCs) to control guitar and other swells. For example, the setup would be whatever guitar or midi guitar sound but then instead of a foot expression pedal or a breath controlled one like @LoFiLeiF uses, it essentially is a breath controller but instead of breath its vocal envelope. I think I messed with “Vochlea” which I believe offers this mapping and tried this but it wasn’t great (that software was all around not great for me).
  3. Furthermore, if I wanted to combine points one and two I could potentially play guitar or midi guitar and then with vocal as the input of a separate midi guitar instance (just for tracking and converting pitch bend and vocal envelope to CC data), control envelope of the guitar and use pitch bend on the vocal to control a parameter on the guitar effects as well.
  4. Even further, it would be cool to have ability to depending on how high or low a note is to return a CC number (Essentially a pitch bend range of 48 and then mapping pitch/bend to a CC parameter).

Sorry if this is a bit confusing. I could make a diagram if that helps. Just fun ideas. I have actually had pretty good success using midi guitar to convert vocals to instruments (much better than Vochlea)

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jamo has got you covered:

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voice pitch to midi is not effective in mg3, but volume should work. on #4 bome may be worth a look, it will do that and much much more.

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Thanks for the response! How would I achieve Volume mapping to midi? Like if I use my voice to control volume swells of my guitar. What parameters would I use to map that volume envelope?

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i may have spoken too soon re: the volume. it just occurred to me that the midi violin/cello people want ‘swells’ and mg3 cannot (if i recall correctly) provide that now.

but maybe pitch would be semi-workable for this, if separated into bands, probably at least half an octave per band. but you’d still need something like bome to translate this.

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Gotcha— I will mess around with it tonight some more. Thanks for the info/reply!

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if hammond b3 is your thing, try using the pitchbend to control rotary speed.

or for bass synth, use it on the filter.

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Will try it out! Thanks!

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Why don’t you use Pressure for volume swells? It is like a velocity over time envelope. Strike is just a single snapshot velocity value, and is not especially useful for smooth dynamic control.

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I will give that a try and report back!

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on hex i restrict the pitchbend transmit to one string only, with mg3 standard things will be trickier.

but single held notes should work just fine.

i don’t have any guitars with whammy bars, but it seems to me that one could work as a cc controller in this scenario. although it would stop working when your fret hand lifts off.