Tips or tricks for playing open strings?

I often like to play guitar in a finger picking style that makes heavy use of open strings ringing out, but this seems to be pretty difficult for MG’s note detection to make sense of, for obvious reasons of physics. The initial plucks of the open strings get converted into notes, but the subsequent ones don’t if the initial ones were still ringing out.

I’m guessing the answers are either “don’t play open strings like that” or “get a hex pickup”, but do you have any other tips or tricks for getting these successive notes to convert into separate notes?

I don’t have any tips but since my playing style is similar, I can confirm that a hex pickup definitely helps with this issue.

Thanks, that’s both good and bad to hear! (Good because it gives me hope it’s a solvable problem; bad because I’ve been trying to fight my gear buying addiction :joy: )

if you post an audio snippet of the raw guitar others here may be able to help.

as you say, this is a difficult case physics wise.

but i wonder if the legato filter / retrigger may help.

Here’s an example. I just recorded something direct, without my usual effects on, and wow… I am getting unbelievable amounts of electrical interference in my signal, so be warned, and apologies in advance. (I should probably focus on solving this problem first!)

i don’t think i was imagining it but i can’t find the filter/effect which contains the retrigger option. i remember using it for something like the opposite effect of what you are looking for.

i ran the file thru mg3 and that low d at the end got me for a minute, it wouldn’t trigger the piano i was using. then i realized i was at e2. in any case, i do see what you’re saying.

it’s not likely to help much, but checking your pickup height is worth a minute. slightly heavier strings could give the lower notes more oomph.

in other cases the recommendation is always to use the bridge pickup only with the tone knob fully clockwise but it is also worth experimenting with the alternatives.

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Thank you! I’ll try those things and see if I can find what you were thinking about.

no bends mode instead of expressive is another thing to experiment with.

any of these alone may only make a fractional difference, but together with some adaptation on your part could get you closer to where you want to be.

i think the ‘retrigger’ option may be deprecated.

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I play fingerstyle too on nylon guitar, and I’ve found that what helps me reduce the number of missed notes is :

  • using the MG2 legacy tracker (don’t worry, it’s really faster than the original MG2 one)
  • disabling bends
  • using a filter on the audio input, removing frequencies outside the possible notes range (I don’t remember the range, I use a graphic EQ to see what comes out when I play certain notes)
  • using a non negligible gate on the signal, and playing with a bit more intensity that I’d do normally for audio output
    I still get missing notes occasionally in arpeggios if I’m not careful, especially with open chords, but for me it’s still confortable enough that I don’t need to alter my playstyle too much.
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Thank you, I’ll try those things out! One question—and sorry if I’m being dense—but what do you mean by using “the MG2 legacy tracker” as opposed to the “original MG2 one?”

Sorry for being vague, I meant it’s way faster than MG2, even if it is labeled as the same algorithm.