Mainly for standalone — I use MG3 as input to my DAW rather than inside the Daw (I find it easier this way).
Two requests:
Audio and Midi Output on one chain: Once a MIDI device, instrument or output is put on a chain, audio output (hex or normal) ceases to play out. Could there be an option where both could still be output?
One instance where audio and mods output on the same channel is less desirable, a past request, but related to above: could the str audio be turned off (or on) when MODs used.
Could additional midi outputs be allowed on per chain basis?
Been playing with setting up alternate guitar tunings on two channels so you can detune each channel and get some weird 12-string tunings where each string in a course pair are tuned differently (in honour of the great Ralph Towner, RIP). The MG3 hex dual detuning of midi and audio is amazingly powerful and mind blowing what can easily be set up!
I’d like both audio and midi per chain to be output for better control in the DAW. The different midi channel output is needed as there is no way that I can see to separate MPE or muti-channel midi. One could output to a separate midi legacy channel but this is limiting.
I think I can better understand if you can post a screenshot of a concrete patch as an example, perhaps with some doodle drawing with what you want to change.
If you put a virtual instrument on a chain, audio ceases to play out of that chain.. do you really want to mix in the guitar into the virtual instrument on a single chain?
Or is it more like like you want to load up both audio and midi stuff on a single chain, and then have a switch in the end of the chain to decide whether audio or midi is output?
It’s not necessary a virtual instrument on the chain. If you put a midi output then audio ceases, which is more how I currently use MG3 in this case.
I’ll try and explain better (sorry I could have been clearer before).
The MG3 Hex ability the retune BOTH midi and audio is amazing. It’s very convenient keeping the guitar in standard tuning and being able to experiment with alternate tunings within MG3 with a returning module.
For recording/mixing/playing instruments in a DAW having both the (retuned guitars) audio and the midi output would be very useful. Currently this can be done using two chains, one for audio one for MIDI. This is a little inconvenient and probably wasteful of processing?
So even in this case a single chain output is more convenient.
The impasse for me came when I was playing with emulating some 12 string alternate tunings where the current 3 chains is not enough!.
Here each chain would have a different retuning set up — here I’d like the two audio and a two MIDI channels output which is not currently possible in MG3.
Right now the MIDI Output works exactly like a synth module, just not producing audio. I guess we could say that it can just pass through the audio and midi, and then you can just add more stuff.
But there is something here seems to me a bit like a hack or workaround. Conceptually it’s nice to think of a Chain of a single chain of stuff that is not branching out into different things. If you had the option to freely add more chains, you would probably not use both audio and MIDI Output on a single Chain?
Let’s add the option to freely add and remove any amount of Chains (and move them around). But this is a too involving for me in terms of UI until after the beta testing, and maybe it will turn out that a Chain is really a “track” and it becomes a small DAW then.
@JamO, I agree. The user orientation and clear structure should definitely be retained. This is crucial for usability and ultimately for success in practical application, both for professionals who want to get things done quickly and for beginners who are still finding their way around.
Under these criteria, new concepts in this regard should therefore first be discussed and examined in detail before they are implemented in the general operation of the software for all users.
it’s a tricky balance, as more things are requested and added, the interface becomes inherently more difficult to read/navigate.
perhaps there could be ‘views’ which get cycled through when the fullscreen (or some other) key is hit?
studio view would be what we have now. stage view would suit those running mg3 on a pedalboard screen and also the visually impaired. also maybe a ‘tiny’ view too, for use with smaller displays.
Yes. I guess not only tunings, but a full “instrument setup” - each guitar can have a different tuning, different tracker setup (hex or jack), input gain, gate. And maybe it’s not a guitar, but a bass or harmonica or midi keyboard, so every that’s on the input side should be saved to a file that can be slelected.
