@Vaultnaemsae Update… A single instance in the Global rackspace didn’t work. It did initially, but in the end it wouldn’t stick when changing rackspaces. It would again switch patch out of the blue. That said…
I could program MINI in standalone with my setup—2 pedals, for volume and sustain—then routed it to GP5. And it works. I opened and closed MG3 in standalone a bunch of times and MINI keeps loading just fine. I programmed each rackspace—a dozen or so—in GP5, moved between them a bunch of times and it all works fine.
Hurray, as it goes. Or phew.
PS: Now to the next task. I use Helix Native for my guitar normal sounds and I’d like to MIDI program a Boss FS-6 to switch presets. I’ve looked into it, tried a few things—there’s some info on that in the Line 6 Helix Native manual, on page 58, though not much—but couldn’t get it to work. If ever you happen to know something about that…
In any case, thanks for suggesting the MG3 standalone option. Looks like I’ll be able to use my new laptop-based setup, after all, for the concert a friend (a kora player) and I will give on Sunday as part of the release and launch of our first album (where I used MG3 for a number of instruments).
Maybe open a different thread on it? There are definitely some Helix Native users, myself included. Everything you need to know (including the limitations and compatible plugin formats) is documented in the “Pilot’s Guide” from Line 6 with regard to using MIDI to change presets or snapshots.
@Vaultnaemsae I looked into the Pilot’s Guide. It didn’t help. That said, I posted about that in the GP forum and someone who had shared an interesting GP gig file about it—how to program GP with 8 widgets to access 8 snapshots—responded and gave me more details about how that works. So I’ll be experimenting with that today.
PS: The album’s launch went well, and my new setup with MG3 worked almost with no glitches—actually, the glitches that happened were due to my forgetting some steps I needed to take when switching sounds. As I think of it, I’ll post a link to the album, which is now online on Bandcamp, in the “Demo category” of the forum.
@LoFiLeiF Absolutely loving the beta so far! Incredible work!
I’m using a Line 6 fbv express mkii usb foot controller to switch patches/control parameters via midi.
I’m using the “piano-like” sustain mode with one of the switches on the foot controller configured as a momentary toggle (so it mimics a piano’s sustain pedal). It’s worked fine so far, but I’m finding that the finite release time (which maxes out at ~10 seconds) feels like a bit of a limitation.
Ideally, I’d be able to use a soft synth with this configuration and sustain a note infinitely while layering on new notes that are also sustained until I release the switch on the foot controller.
My understanding is that the modes currently available in the beta cannot accommodate this. Would this be a simple tweak/update on your end?
Hey @ArtSze
Glad you are enjoying the beta, but you should really let @JamO know. That is the the genious developer behind this software. I have just made the occasional video to showcase a feature or let you know a new version is out.
When it comes to your sustain question, I am not sure that the absense of that function is related to the software being in beta. I don’t know if there has been a request for a longer release time, even less an infinite, but that is a developer question most certainly.
Do you have an example of this functionality in any other software I would know of? It might be I just misunderstand what you are looking for.
Hi Lofi, I’m trying to achieve an infinite sustain, but while being able to change its velocity and pitch bend it, to basically achieve the same thing a saxophonist can do with circular breathing. Like playing long notes while being able to go from pianissimo to forte gradually in real time, just like horn players, with individual notes, I don’t care that much about chords, because I play them with my right hand, while I play a virtual sax with my left hand tapping my guitar. I’ve been thinking about how to achieve this for the longest time, and I thought that installing a modified sustainaic gradually activated with a breath controller was the way, but after seeing how MG 3 behaves with an ebow I don’t know how to achieve it, maybe buying your breath controller and controlling the guitar pitch with it? I’m confused and I wonder how would you achieve this given your experience with all these devices and workflows.
a sustain pedal mapped directly to your vst synth(s) will give you infinite sustain, assuming the vsts support it.
or if using a breath controller you could set bite to sustain. volume could be controlled with tilt, pressure with nod.
pitchbend, if that’s what you meant, could be controlled by breath, but it would need a cc conversion and it would only be able to go up or down from zero.
It is way too much in here for me to be able to break it down, without you clarifying a little.
Are you using a software synth in MG3? What synth, and what sound. If it is a sound that keeps playing for as long as you keep a key pressed, you should be able to use the SUSTAINER/Freeze Chord function. But you need something for the dynamic control, like an expression pedal or breathcontroller connected to Pressure (directly, if it a monophonic instrument (like a virtual sax):
So are you tapping chords on the guitar with your right hand, or are you using another controller (keyboard) and just use your left to trigger the guitar notes for your virtual sax?
A sustainiac works to sustain notes somewhat but it isn’t a great solution. Its oscillating character tend to retigger notes a lot, and you need to be in complete control of the strings to stop unwanted action on open strings.
I have no clue what this would be. Is thiere any voltage controlled Sustainiac out there that I haven’t heard of?
It feels way easier to handle all the control from inside MG3 itself. Buy a breathcontroller and you can assign control to whatever you like. Pitch is somewhat special, though. You have the GLIDE button, but that works a Global control if you connect a controller to it. You will affect all pitches at ones, rather than the pitch-per-note quality we normally aim to target. But it is totally up to what you want to do.
If you give me a clearer picture of what you are trying to achieve, I 'll do my best to help you get there!
Sorry for the late reply and I truly thank you for the thoughtful response you gave. Well I use tenor sax 3 from SWAM that is hosted inside MG3 (MG3 is running standalone) to play monophonic lines with the guitar (by doing tapping on it), and separately I use a casio keyboard to play chords with my right hand (this is why I don’t care about playing chords) , my problem is that I can’t sustain long notes beyond the guitar natural sustain (I can’t mimic a saxophone circular breathing for as long as desired, or just regular long sustained notes), it also means I lose control over its velocity and pitch (to make the sustained note go louder or quieter while pitch bending it up or down).
If you check out this video, i have tried my hardest to give you guys as much insight as I possibly can, into stuff like the dynamic control aspects of the MPE dimensions. What you are asking for is probably covered in the DYNAMICS module HOLD Pressure segment, but there is a lot you can do with the MODULATORS envelopes as well.
